nearly $20,000 per united states citizen has been added since president obama came into office. so just silly to argue he hasn't contributed. melissa: blame game gets us nowhere because everybody contributed to it. god it is a mess and we have to fix it. when you hear people like nancy pelosi saying the fiscal cliff was not enough on the revenue side. you hear, you know, many politicians chiming in. howard dean, for example, saying in december that the truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes. we're not going to get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. the rich can't solve the problem. i guess that is where i'm going with this is, it seems like, especially from what you're saying susan, everyone will have to pay more taxes to get out of this. >> i actually don't agree with that point. i don't agree with howard dean either. we're not looking more middle class tax increases. the president has been pretty firm on that. we're looking closing corporate loopholes. some people are starting to talk about high frequent financial transaction tax for people